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		<title>By: Thomas Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/06/24/the-sign-of-the-cross/#comment-7952</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom, did you also notice that the rumble strips on the left (next to the median) are continuous, and the strips next to the shoulder are intermittent?

-Tom in Montana]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, did you also notice that the rumble strips on the left (next to the median) are continuous, and the strips next to the shoulder are intermittent?</p>
<p>-Tom in Montana</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Ogilvie</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/06/24/the-sign-of-the-cross/#comment-7935</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Ogilvie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a comment on center-line rumble strips: I&#039;ve encountered them on two-lane highways in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I thought they were a great idea on such long, straight, lonely stretches of road.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a comment on center-line rumble strips: I&#8217;ve encountered them on two-lane highways in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I thought they were a great idea on such long, straight, lonely stretches of road.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/06/24/the-sign-of-the-cross/#comment-7924</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s in your post from the other day.  The same company that does the light and speed posting coordination primarily does &quot;Traffic Calming&quot;.

http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/06/22/a-speed-nudge/#comment-7872

Of all their &quot;effectiveness studies&quot;, only one actually mention changes in accident rates.  It also suggests that their efforts aren&#039;t responsible for the improvements.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Memorandum

Date: February 2, 2007

To: Humboldt Area

From: DEPARTMENT OF CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL
Humboldt Area

File No.: 125.11998

Subject: REDUCTION OF COLLISIONS ASSOCIATED WITH ROADWAY CHANGES IN THREE AREAS OF HUMBOLDT COUNT

In 2006, there was a significant reduction of collisions at three locations in the Humboldt Area. The reduction of collisions was associated with engineering changes made by the California Department of Transportation (Cal Trans). These changes include changing the roadway surface from conventional asphalt/concrete pavement to “opengrade” asphalt/concrete pavement and posting additional sings, some of which are radar activated signs that indicate the speed of approaching motorists. Two of these areas are located on US 101; the third area is located on SR-299.

The north most area is located on US 101, between mile post markers 101 HUM 124.71 and 125.98; a stretch of highway frequently referred to as “the curves just south of the by-pass, north of the old fish hatchery.” In 2004, there were nine reported collisions in this area. In 2005, there were eight reported collisions in this area. Cal Trans completed a safety project, which included a change to “Open Grade” roadway safety surface, and the addition of radar activated signs in December 2005. In 2006, there were 5 reported collisions in this area.

The second area on US 101 is located between milepost markers 101 HUM 109.42 and 112.53; an area commonly called “the Big Lagoon Curves.” In 2004, there were 12 reported collisions in this area. In 2005, there were also 12 reported collisions in this area. Cal Trans completed a safety project in this area that included radar activated signs and a change to “open grade” roadway surface in December of 2005. In 2006, there were 5 reported collisions in this area.

The third area is located on SR-299 on the east slope of Lord Ellis Summit, between milepost markers 299 HUM 19.05 and 20.67. Though the curves are not as tight as those on US 101 are, the roadway grade is steep. &lt;i&gt;Both in 2004 and 2005 there were 12 reported collisions in this area. Though no comprehensive safety project was conducted in this area, Cal Trans conducted a number of incidental improvements and repairs. &lt;b&gt;This area does not have radar activated signs&lt;/b&gt;. In 2006 there were three reported collisions in this area.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s in your post from the other day.  The same company that does the light and speed posting coordination primarily does &#8220;Traffic Calming&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/06/22/a-speed-nudge/#comment-7872" rel="nofollow">http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/06/22/a-speed-nudge/#comment-7872</a></p>
<p>Of all their &#8220;effectiveness studies&#8221;, only one actually mention changes in accident rates.  It also suggests that their efforts aren&#8217;t responsible for the improvements.</p>
<blockquote><p>Memorandum</p>
<p>Date: February 2, 2007</p>
<p>To: Humboldt Area</p>
<p>From: DEPARTMENT OF CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL<br />
Humboldt Area</p>
<p>File No.: 125.11998</p>
<p>Subject: REDUCTION OF COLLISIONS ASSOCIATED WITH ROADWAY CHANGES IN THREE AREAS OF HUMBOLDT COUNT</p>
<p>In 2006, there was a significant reduction of collisions at three locations in the Humboldt Area. The reduction of collisions was associated with engineering changes made by the California Department of Transportation (Cal Trans). These changes include changing the roadway surface from conventional asphalt/concrete pavement to “opengrade” asphalt/concrete pavement and posting additional sings, some of which are radar activated signs that indicate the speed of approaching motorists. Two of these areas are located on US 101; the third area is located on SR-299.</p>
<p>The north most area is located on US 101, between mile post markers 101 HUM 124.71 and 125.98; a stretch of highway frequently referred to as “the curves just south of the by-pass, north of the old fish hatchery.” In 2004, there were nine reported collisions in this area. In 2005, there were eight reported collisions in this area. Cal Trans completed a safety project, which included a change to “Open Grade” roadway safety surface, and the addition of radar activated signs in December 2005. In 2006, there were 5 reported collisions in this area.</p>
<p>The second area on US 101 is located between milepost markers 101 HUM 109.42 and 112.53; an area commonly called “the Big Lagoon Curves.” In 2004, there were 12 reported collisions in this area. In 2005, there were also 12 reported collisions in this area. Cal Trans completed a safety project in this area that included radar activated signs and a change to “open grade” roadway surface in December of 2005. In 2006, there were 5 reported collisions in this area.</p>
<p>The third area is located on SR-299 on the east slope of Lord Ellis Summit, between milepost markers 299 HUM 19.05 and 20.67. Though the curves are not as tight as those on US 101 are, the roadway grade is steep. <i>Both in 2004 and 2005 there were 12 reported collisions in this area. Though no comprehensive safety project was conducted in this area, Cal Trans conducted a number of incidental improvements and repairs. <b>This area does not have radar activated signs</b>. In 2006 there were three reported collisions in this area.</i></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/06/24/the-sign-of-the-cross/#comment-7920</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes.  Restructuring is key in reducing fatalities.  Restructuring safety improvements are often wrongly attributied to speed reduction efforts done at the same time.  There is little evidence (any?) that speed reduction efforts improve safety.

Changing key spots to &quot;Open Grade&quot; material in 2006 in CA reduced accidents from 12 annually to 3-5.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  Restructuring is key in reducing fatalities.  Restructuring safety improvements are often wrongly attributied to speed reduction efforts done at the same time.  There is little evidence (any?) that speed reduction efforts improve safety.</p>
<p>Changing key spots to &#8220;Open Grade&#8221; material in 2006 in CA reduced accidents from 12 annually to 3-5.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Willman</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/06/24/the-sign-of-the-cross/#comment-7888</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Willman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, one very difficult human factor is the unwillingness or inability to consider events or consequences even a few minutes into the future.

I now think this explains a lot of crime - &quot;what did they think would happen?&quot; is answered by &quot;they didn&#039;t think at all...&quot;

I conjecture that this explains part of drunk driving.  People don&#039;t plan to get &quot;drunk&quot;, don&#039;t plan to drive drunk, and when drunk have poor judgement about their driving.   So all sorts of &quot;don&#039;t drive drunk warnings&quot; may have no effect because they don&#039;t intend to do it, perhaps don&#039;t think they are doing it, or only realize it when they&#039;re already in route.   (Are there studies or other data on this?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, one very difficult human factor is the unwillingness or inability to consider events or consequences even a few minutes into the future.</p>
<p>I now think this explains a lot of crime &#8211; &#8220;what did they think would happen?&#8221; is answered by &#8220;they didn&#8217;t think at all&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I conjecture that this explains part of drunk driving.  People don&#8217;t plan to get &#8220;drunk&#8221;, don&#8217;t plan to drive drunk, and when drunk have poor judgement about their driving.   So all sorts of &#8220;don&#8217;t drive drunk warnings&#8221; may have no effect because they don&#8217;t intend to do it, perhaps don&#8217;t think they are doing it, or only realize it when they&#8217;re already in route.   (Are there studies or other data on this?)</p>
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		<title>By: PaulD</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/06/24/the-sign-of-the-cross/#comment-7885</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[White crosses are a big thing in Western Australia, you can find them everywhere from city highways to the middle of nowhere (and we have a LOT of nowhere.) The thing that always strikes me about them is how many are NOT on dangerous sections of road. I&#039;ve seen 3km straight sections of road with a cluster of crosses half way along.

The human factors are nearly always significant, even if it&#039;s just an inability to recognise that the road engineering is inadequate/dangerous/faulty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White crosses are a big thing in Western Australia, you can find them everywhere from city highways to the middle of nowhere (and we have a LOT of nowhere.) The thing that always strikes me about them is how many are NOT on dangerous sections of road. I&#8217;ve seen 3km straight sections of road with a cluster of crosses half way along.</p>
<p>The human factors are nearly always significant, even if it&#8217;s just an inability to recognise that the road engineering is inadequate/dangerous/faulty.</p>
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