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		<title>By: Brigham</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/07/09/directional-pedestrian-flow/#comment-8187</link>
		<dc:creator>Brigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where there is no separate footway, pedestrians walk on the RIGHT on British roads, in order to face oncoming traffic. Keeping to the right on the London tube is usually credited to the involvement of Charles Tyson Yerkes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where there is no separate footway, pedestrians walk on the RIGHT on British roads, in order to face oncoming traffic. Keeping to the right on the London tube is usually credited to the involvement of Charles Tyson Yerkes!</p>
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		<title>By: Dottie</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/07/09/directional-pedestrian-flow/#comment-8134</link>
		<dc:creator>Dottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  I don't see this working in Chicago.  Too many tourists, for one, who barely know which direction they're going in the first place.  Plus, all the surly residents such as myself would consider it too close to sheep herding :)  

I got a few scowls in London when walking on the wrong side in the tube.  I never could figure out if I was supposed to walk on the right like in the States or on the left like on their roads.  Good to know, Matt, that the side changes depending on the area and that I am not simply a slow learner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  I don&#8217;t see this working in Chicago.  Too many tourists, for one, who barely know which direction they&#8217;re going in the first place.  Plus, all the surly residents such as myself would consider it too close to sheep herding <img src='http://www.howwedrive.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I got a few scowls in London when walking on the wrong side in the tube.  I never could figure out if I was supposed to walk on the right like in the States or on the left like on their roads.  Good to know, Matt, that the side changes depending on the area and that I am not simply a slow learner.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/07/09/directional-pedestrian-flow/#comment-8131</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In most subways etc in London, especially ones leading to or around stations, there are "Keep left" or "Keep right" signs (it's not always the same side, sticking to the side they suggest will probably mean you're on the same side as the exit or whatever). And if you don't want 50 people scowling at you you'd best stand on the right on an escalator ;-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most subways etc in London, especially ones leading to or around stations, there are &#8220;Keep left&#8221; or &#8220;Keep right&#8221; signs (it&#8217;s not always the same side, sticking to the side they suggest will probably mean you&#8217;re on the same side as the exit or whatever). And if you don&#8217;t want 50 people scowling at you you&#8217;d best stand on the right on an escalator ;-).</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Green</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/07/09/directional-pedestrian-flow/#comment-8109</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd take some slight issue to the characterisation of the rule abidingness in Japan, if only to point out that the rules abided too are generally those socially enforced rather than formally enforced. For instance, in traffic, rules that are merely formal without social expectations, like speed limits or the true spirit of one-way streets are very very cavalierly adhered to.


On a similar note to the topic, I've noticed in a 400 metre or some walkway under central station in Sydney, there is widespread adherence to a keep to the left rule when there is alot of foot traffic, but there are no signs to this effect. I'm always wondering if it is truely engrained in people from the road or whether a few early walkers simply defaulted to passing each other on the left, which resulted in a traffic segregation that simply made it unpractical for following walkers to disobey the emergent convention. Path dependence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d take some slight issue to the characterisation of the rule abidingness in Japan, if only to point out that the rules abided too are generally those socially enforced rather than formally enforced. For instance, in traffic, rules that are merely formal without social expectations, like speed limits or the true spirit of one-way streets are very very cavalierly adhered to.</p>
<p>On a similar note to the topic, I&#8217;ve noticed in a 400 metre or some walkway under central station in Sydney, there is widespread adherence to a keep to the left rule when there is alot of foot traffic, but there are no signs to this effect. I&#8217;m always wondering if it is truely engrained in people from the road or whether a few early walkers simply defaulted to passing each other on the left, which resulted in a traffic segregation that simply made it unpractical for following walkers to disobey the emergent convention. Path dependence.</p>
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		<title>By: wes kirkman</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/07/09/directional-pedestrian-flow/#comment-8107</link>
		<dc:creator>wes kirkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Josh
*cough* http://www.seattlepi.com/photos/photo.asp?PhotoID=202575 *cough*

In all seriousness, I think the signs probably don't stop all pedestrians but probably warn those unfamiliar peds that this is not the street to be walking down counter to traffic flow patterns.  Can you imagine walking against a flow of 3 million pedestrians?  I think even your most unabashed anarchist would follow the rules in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Josh<br />
*cough* <a href="http://www.seattlepi.com/photos/photo.asp?PhotoID=202575" rel="nofollow">http://www.seattlepi.com/photos/photo.asp?PhotoID=202575</a> *cough*</p>
<p>In all seriousness, I think the signs probably don&#8217;t stop all pedestrians but probably warn those unfamiliar peds that this is not the street to be walking down counter to traffic flow patterns.  Can you imagine walking against a flow of 3 million pedestrians?  I think even your most unabashed anarchist would follow the rules in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spack</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/07/09/directional-pedestrian-flow/#comment-8100</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Spack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Minneapolis, some of the trails around our beautiful chain of lakes have trails that split bicycles from pedestrians with signs and lane markings.  Some of the lanes have directional arrows in them.  They aren't allows obeyed, but they help keep the crowds moving on a nice summer Saturday afternoon.  The system isn't as overt as the Japanese system and it is trails versus sidewalks, but it is something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Minneapolis, some of the trails around our beautiful chain of lakes have trails that split bicycles from pedestrians with signs and lane markings.  Some of the lanes have directional arrows in them.  They aren&#8217;t allows obeyed, but they help keep the crowds moving on a nice summer Saturday afternoon.  The system isn&#8217;t as overt as the Japanese system and it is trails versus sidewalks, but it is something.</p>
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		<title>By: ls</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/07/09/directional-pedestrian-flow/#comment-8099</link>
		<dc:creator>ls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Birmingham England there is a pedestrian ramp into a shopping centre with markings, signs and loudspeakers directing pedestrians to keep left. Many people ignore it but it does seem to work better when it is very crowded.

Photo --&#62; http://www.flickr.com/photos/sibadd/3333688893/ (man being arrested is probably not for walking on wrong side but possibly for wearing trousers too low)

Time lapse --&#62;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidellins/3403820823/ (2nd scene)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Birmingham England there is a pedestrian ramp into a shopping centre with markings, signs and loudspeakers directing pedestrians to keep left. Many people ignore it but it does seem to work better when it is very crowded.</p>
<p>Photo &#8211;&gt; <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/sibadd/3333688893/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/sibadd/3333688893/</a> (man being arrested is probably not for walking on wrong side but possibly for wearing trousers too low)</p>
<p>Time lapse &#8211;&gt;<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidellins/3403820823/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidellins/3403820823/</a> (2nd scene)</p>
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		<title>By: Yokota Fritz</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/07/09/directional-pedestrian-flow/#comment-8096</link>
		<dc:creator>Yokota Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh has a good point about the law abiding nature of Japanese society. I'm pretty amazed there's a thriving fixie/hipster subculture in Japan who are almost as bad as American urban riders at blowing through stop signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh has a good point about the law abiding nature of Japanese society. I&#8217;m pretty amazed there&#8217;s a thriving fixie/hipster subculture in Japan who are almost as bad as American urban riders at blowing through stop signs.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh R</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/07/09/directional-pedestrian-flow/#comment-8095</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't think of anyplace outside Japan that would 1, Have that many pedestrians moving around at the same time. &#38; 2. Have such an ingrained cultural bent toward following the rules that everybody would obey the signs.

You could put all the signs you want in cities like Bangkok and Delhi, but you'd just be wasting your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t think of anyplace outside Japan that would 1, Have that many pedestrians moving around at the same time. &amp; 2. Have such an ingrained cultural bent toward following the rules that everybody would obey the signs.</p>
<p>You could put all the signs you want in cities like Bangkok and Delhi, but you&#8217;d just be wasting your time.</p>
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