Comments on: Kafka at the DMV http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/08/27/kafka-at-the-dmv/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 23 May 2012 01:18:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: murphstahoe http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/08/27/kafka-at-the-dmv/#comment-8789 murphstahoe Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:35:02 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1155#comment-8789 More evidence on my point about how the "License the Bicyclists" people are inane - you aren't required to have a license to drive a car. You are only required to have a car and the key for said car. More evidence on my point about how the “License the Bicyclists” people are inane - you aren’t required to have a license to drive a car. You are only required to have a car and the key for said car.

]]> By: Rich Wilson http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/08/27/kafka-at-the-dmv/#comment-8777 Rich Wilson Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:52:53 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1155#comment-8777 My wife was stopped by a police officer for jay walking and threatened with a ticket. (This is was a very slow moving traffic downtown touristy zone, people jay walk all the time, not sure why he targeted her). He threatened her with a ticket, and added that it would add points to her license. To which she replied (and she had a pretty thick accent then) "But I don't have a license". He gave up and left. I agree that adding points to a drivers license that one isn't required to have while cycling is inane. I understand the counter argument, if you do something dumb on the road, then it applies to all modes. If that's the case, then require everyone to get an ID to be on the street at any age, and apply it to that. Not that I'm advocating that particular idea, but at least it would be 'fair'. My wife was stopped by a police officer for jay walking and threatened with a ticket. (This is was a very slow moving traffic downtown touristy zone, people jay walk all the time, not sure why he targeted her). He threatened her with a ticket, and added that it would add points to her license.

To which she replied (and she had a pretty thick accent then) “But I don’t have a license”. He gave up and left.

I agree that adding points to a drivers license that one isn’t required to have while cycling is inane. I understand the counter argument, if you do something dumb on the road, then it applies to all modes. If that’s the case, then require everyone to get an ID to be on the street at any age, and apply it to that. Not that I’m advocating that particular idea, but at least it would be ‘fair’.

]]> By: Kevin Love http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/08/27/kafka-at-the-dmv/#comment-8768 Kevin Love Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:10:49 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1155#comment-8768 A better question is: "How did this person get out of jail?" In Ontario, driving without a license and offenses that result in license suspensions also involve serious jail time. Time that increases rapidly with repeat offenders. Given the normal life expectancy, 45 suspensions would not be possible. What is going on in Michigan? A better question is: “How did this person get out of jail?”

In Ontario, driving without a license and offenses that result in license suspensions also involve serious jail time. Time that increases rapidly with repeat offenders. Given the normal life expectancy, 45 suspensions would not be possible.

What is going on in Michigan?

]]> By: Gary K. http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/08/27/kafka-at-the-dmv/#comment-8762 Gary K. Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:07:57 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1155#comment-8762 How on earth is this allowed to happen. I shudder to think of what other people are out there on the road with records like that. How on earth is this allowed to happen. I shudder to think of what other people are out there on the road with records like that.

]]> By: Kevin Love http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/08/27/kafka-at-the-dmv/#comment-8760 Kevin Love Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:15:24 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1155#comment-8760 This actually makes sense to me. The suspension then becomes a legal prohibition from getting a license. Otherwise how would DMV know not to issue a license if Renee were to apply for one? This actually makes sense to me. The suspension then becomes a legal prohibition from getting a license. Otherwise how would DMV know not to issue a license if Renee were to apply for one?

]]> By: Des http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/08/27/kafka-at-the-dmv/#comment-8758 Des Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:07:35 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1155#comment-8758 A friend of mine got a red light ticket on a bicycle once, and was informed that it would indeed result in demerit points. Thinking that this was grossly unfair because cyclists without licenses would be punished differently (less) than cyclists with licenses, my friend looked into the matter at the provincial insurance agency and was informed that in the case of someone not having a license, they would open a file for them so that if indeed they obtained a license within the following two years, they'd have those two demerit points to start with. Not sure about suspensions, though enough demerit points would probably add up to one. Strike one for bureaucratic consistency, I guess. A friend of mine got a red light ticket on a bicycle once, and was informed that it would indeed result in demerit points. Thinking that this was grossly unfair because cyclists without licenses would be punished differently (less) than cyclists with licenses, my friend looked into the matter at the provincial insurance agency and was informed that in the case of someone not having a license, they would open a file for them so that if indeed they obtained a license within the following two years, they’d have those two demerit points to start with. Not sure about suspensions, though enough demerit points would probably add up to one. Strike one for bureaucratic consistency, I guess.

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