Comments on: In Praise of Traffic Tickets

By: Jim Pfeiffer

Jim Pfeiffer — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:38:03 +0000

You noted in your Slate article, over a decade 89 officers killed and 600,000 assaulted during traffic
stops. It’s an interesting ratio and leads me to point out that a common police tactic (hopefully less
common today?) has been to assault a suspect and then charge them with assault afterwards, presumably
to justify any injury to the suspect. And while someone is only supposed to be pulled over for “due cause”
(except in the case of roadblocks where, for example, every tenth person is stopped) it is clearly shown in
racial profiling studies that some officers use prejudiced or even invented reasons for initiating a stop. This in no way rebuts your interesting comments about the value of police stops in general. But it does suggest
that they pose an unreasonable (and unjust) burden on minority communities. Again, the problem is not
with the stops per se but with ensuring uniform standards which do not infringe upon the rights or
prerogatives of law-abiding persons.

By: James

James — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:17:28 +0000

The police should impound the driver’s car after three serious moving violations like running a red light or stop sign, driving while yakking on a cell phone (oops not an offense yet in some states), or tailgating. After the vehicle is impounded, the driver would have to wait three days before he/she could pick up their vehicle from towing.

If the offense involves the injury or loss of life due to drunkenness or negligence (yakking on a cell phone counts), then the car should be impounded and all driving privileges revoked for at least one year. If the driver is illegally here, then ship them out of the country. Make the offense hurt.

By: John

John — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:30:13 +0000

Tom, quote–

“The issue here is not simply ticketing drivers (though I’m all for doing far more of that, and with more meaningful penalties), but taking more strenuous measures against those who seem to have a knack for racking them up (and often, inevitably it can seem, going on to do greater damage).”

Let us tell on each other. See my blog entry, “an addition to making driving safer.”

By: Brian Ogilvie

Brian Ogilvie — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:48:30 +0000

Horrifying story. I’ve just been traveling around Norway, where the posted speed limits are low: 50 kmh/30mph in most built-up areas, 30 kph/18 mph in pedestrian-priority zones, 80 kph/50 mph outside of built-up areas, and a whopping 90 kph/56 mph on 4-lane, limited access highways. The limits are strictly enforced. Cars must drive with headlights on at all times (given the low clouds, fog, and short days for much of the year, I can see why this rule is in effect). And the legal maximum blood alcohol content is 0.02 percent, also strictly enforced–in fact, bartenders will often refuse to serve someone who mentions that he or she will be driving afterwards.

In short, Norwegians seem to accept that to have safe roads, people have to drive more slowly than Americans do and that they need to pay more attention. The roads are definitely less forgiving than in most of the US–narrow, little or no shoulder, often no center line, and in some places so narrow that if two cars meet, one must back up to the closest passing area. I think that probably helps safety, because drivers know when rounding that blind curve that they may meet someone.