Comments on: Catching Up http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/09/06/catching-up-2/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 23 May 2012 01:29:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: mikey2gorgeous http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/09/06/catching-up-2/#comment-8934 mikey2gorgeous Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:30:34 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1176#comment-8934 @fred - actually there is negligable death & injury from cyclists on the pavement. What there is can usually be attributed to hooligans who will be a danger whatever they're driving & there are laws which can be invoked by the Police when needed. Some Chief Constables have stated their officers should turn a blind eye to it when done respectfully. What we do have is a presumption by a lot of people that there is a danger when the statistics don't back that up. We have little enough precious police resource on our streets, we shouldn't tie them up with issues that have virtually no impact on our society. By all means come down VERY hard on those who put others at risk but cyclists sometimes need to be able to go on pavements (& the law allows this where there is a danger to be avoided on the road). @fred - actually there is negligable death & injury from cyclists on the pavement. What there is can usually be attributed to hooligans who will be a danger whatever they’re driving & there are laws which can be invoked by the Police when needed. Some Chief Constables have stated their officers should turn a blind eye to it when done respectfully.

What we do have is a presumption by a lot of people that there is a danger when the statistics don’t back that up. We have little enough precious police resource on our streets, we shouldn’t tie them up with issues that have virtually no impact on our society.

By all means come down VERY hard on those who put others at risk but cyclists sometimes need to be able to go on pavements (& the law allows this where there is a danger to be avoided on the road).

]]> By: fred_dot_u http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/09/06/catching-up-2/#comment-8912 fred_dot_u Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:14:18 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1176#comment-8912 I have to agree with the Brit complaining about cyclists on the pavement, because in their country, pavement means sidewalk. Irresponsible and inconsiderate cyclists on the sidewalk are a danger to pedestrians. I have to agree with the Brit complaining about cyclists on the pavement, because in their country, pavement means sidewalk. Irresponsible and inconsiderate cyclists on the sidewalk are a danger to pedestrians.

]]> By: mikey2gorgeous http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/09/06/catching-up-2/#comment-8911 mikey2gorgeous Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:19:55 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1176#comment-8911 Check out the 'comments' left by the Times' readers! These attitudes are one of the major obstacles to decent road reform & cycling provision. Note the English Pedant's favourite whinge crops up... "cycling on the pavement! It is dangerous & should be stamped out" (even though there's no real danger - only percieved threat). Check out the ‘comments’ left by the Times’ readers! These attitudes are one of the major obstacles to decent road reform & cycling provision. Note the English Pedant’s favourite whinge crops up… “cycling on the pavement! It is dangerous & should be stamped out” (even though there’s no real danger - only percieved threat).

]]> By: fred_dot_u http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/09/06/catching-up-2/#comment-8907 fred_dot_u Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:07:17 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1176#comment-8907 Not so much shared roads as shared space, specifically a shared intersection concept, but it is a well-written piece, in my opinion, of shared space that works: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5290564n without advert at start: http://www.vimeo.com/6449097 "civic response", "social behavior", and best of all, "takes responsibility away from the traffic engineers and puts it on the individuals". Not so much shared roads as shared space, specifically a shared intersection concept, but it is a well-written piece, in my opinion, of shared space that works:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5290564n

without advert at start: http://www.vimeo.com/6449097

“civic response”, “social behavior”, and best of all, “takes responsibility away from the traffic engineers and puts it on the individuals”.

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