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		<title>By: fred_dot_u</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/10/15/the-jaywalking-menace/#comment-9519</link>
		<dc:creator>fred_dot_u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And on the other side of the coin:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And on the other side of the coin:</p>
<p><a href="http://itmademyday.com/2009/10/22/bex/" rel="nofollow">http://itmademyday.com/2009/10/22/bex/</a></p>
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		<title>By: wes kirkman</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/10/15/the-jaywalking-menace/#comment-9517</link>
		<dc:creator>wes kirkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to hear you got harassed by my peace officers whom should have much better things to do.  Amen on the over-concern here for jaywalking.  Thought I was just making it up.  Didn&#039;t want to sound like online news commenters that say &quot;(insert name of your City) has the worst (insert whatever topic you feel like, most likely pedestrian behaviour)&quot;...but what the heck.

While I&#039;m at it, something I&#039;ve also noticed of big concern here, more so than other places, is whether or not someone was wearing a helmet on a bicycle (I figured this topic was safe with you based on your blog, forgive me if not; *duck, cover head*).  First couple years here I thought I was making up all the dirty looks and muffled comments.  Crazy that people can get so caught up in things that have absolutely no impact on their lives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear you got harassed by my peace officers whom should have much better things to do.  Amen on the over-concern here for jaywalking.  Thought I was just making it up.  Didn&#8217;t want to sound like online news commenters that say &#8220;(insert name of your City) has the worst (insert whatever topic you feel like, most likely pedestrian behaviour)&#8221;&#8230;but what the heck.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m at it, something I&#8217;ve also noticed of big concern here, more so than other places, is whether or not someone was wearing a helmet on a bicycle (I figured this topic was safe with you based on your blog, forgive me if not; *duck, cover head*).  First couple years here I thought I was making up all the dirty looks and muffled comments.  Crazy that people can get so caught up in things that have absolutely no impact on their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: spiderleggreen</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/10/15/the-jaywalking-menace/#comment-9513</link>
		<dc:creator>spiderleggreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wes~ Seattle seems to be especially concerned about jaywalking.  It seems to be an obsession.  I got stopped by a cop for walking across a street downtown, with nobody around.  That would never happen in Mpls, unless someone is being reckless.  You are in anti-jaywalking hot zone.  Portland may have that inclination, too, but not as bad.  With the winters here in Mpls, if you waited for every light you&#039;d expire from hypothermia.

Right on, about the fact that the game is stacked against non-motorized traffic.  I do try to be nice about it, but sometimes you come off as jerk, because you&#039;re not sticking with the script.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wes~ Seattle seems to be especially concerned about jaywalking.  It seems to be an obsession.  I got stopped by a cop for walking across a street downtown, with nobody around.  That would never happen in Mpls, unless someone is being reckless.  You are in anti-jaywalking hot zone.  Portland may have that inclination, too, but not as bad.  With the winters here in Mpls, if you waited for every light you&#8217;d expire from hypothermia.</p>
<p>Right on, about the fact that the game is stacked against non-motorized traffic.  I do try to be nice about it, but sometimes you come off as jerk, because you&#8217;re not sticking with the script.</p>
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		<title>By: wes kirkman</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/10/15/the-jaywalking-menace/#comment-9497</link>
		<dc:creator>wes kirkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is unfortunate.  That guy seems so upset by people waiting, looking for traffic, and then moving on when safe.  I get that crap all the time here in Seattle.  I&#039;ve even had other pedestrians yell at me for not following traffic rules.  Now those are the fools manipulated into giving away the farm.

It just boggles my mind that using common sense is being outlawed...we can&#039;t possibly do be responsible for ourselves.  Traffic rules were made for cars...pedestrians don&#039;t need traffic rules...do we need right-of-way laws in public plazas?  No.  Those moving at the speeds of human can safely navigate around things.  Traffic engineers obviously realize this; that&#039;s why they put all that crap in the sidewalk (street signs, construction signs, parking meters, business A-frames, you name it).

In any case, their anti-walking mentality is not going to discourage me.  I try not to get upset with the drivers and strict law-abiders (sometimes my temper does get away).  I keep on walking...living my life...unaffected by petty things like how this person is abiding by a law that has no impact on my life or how crappy my neighbor parks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate.  That guy seems so upset by people waiting, looking for traffic, and then moving on when safe.  I get that crap all the time here in Seattle.  I&#8217;ve even had other pedestrians yell at me for not following traffic rules.  Now those are the fools manipulated into giving away the farm.</p>
<p>It just boggles my mind that using common sense is being outlawed&#8230;we can&#8217;t possibly do be responsible for ourselves.  Traffic rules were made for cars&#8230;pedestrians don&#8217;t need traffic rules&#8230;do we need right-of-way laws in public plazas?  No.  Those moving at the speeds of human can safely navigate around things.  Traffic engineers obviously realize this; that&#8217;s why they put all that crap in the sidewalk (street signs, construction signs, parking meters, business A-frames, you name it).</p>
<p>In any case, their anti-walking mentality is not going to discourage me.  I try not to get upset with the drivers and strict law-abiders (sometimes my temper does get away).  I keep on walking&#8230;living my life&#8230;unaffected by petty things like how this person is abiding by a law that has no impact on my life or how crappy my neighbor parks.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiderleggreen</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/10/15/the-jaywalking-menace/#comment-9473</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiderleggreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I&#039;m tired of the anti-jaywalkin sanctamonious bulls##t. It&#039;s all based on lie That pedestians should be grateful too be allowed on the streets at all. They&#039;re like fools who have been manipulated into giving away the farm.  And the whole town helps out by pretending it never happened. Now you&#039;re the shiftless one who needs to be reformed. 

Having awakened to the truth, we need to educate the motorist(which is me too) about the real history of traffic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m tired of the anti-jaywalkin sanctamonious bulls##t. It&#8217;s all based on lie That pedestians should be grateful too be allowed on the streets at all. They&#8217;re like fools who have been manipulated into giving away the farm.  And the whole town helps out by pretending it never happened. Now you&#8217;re the shiftless one who needs to be reformed. </p>
<p>Having awakened to the truth, we need to educate the motorist(which is me too) about the real history of traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Yokota Fritz</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/10/15/the-jaywalking-menace/#comment-9406</link>
		<dc:creator>Yokota Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It must be anti pedestrian day - CW Nevius also lectures pedestrians &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/15/BAGT1A57EL.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lectured pedestrians&lt;/a&gt; to stop jaywalking around traffic in today&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/15/BAGT1A57EL.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;San Francisco Chronicle&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Cager&quot; comes from the motorcycle world and is a pejorative for anybody inside of a &#039;cage,&#039; not just the dangerous or rude ones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be anti pedestrian day &#8211; CW Nevius also lectures pedestrians <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/15/BAGT1A57EL.DTL" rel="nofollow">lectured pedestrians</a> to stop jaywalking around traffic in today&#8217;s <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/15/BAGT1A57EL.DTL" rel="nofollow">San Francisco Chronicle</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Cager&#8221; comes from the motorcycle world and is a pejorative for anybody inside of a &#8216;cage,&#8217; not just the dangerous or rude ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/10/15/the-jaywalking-menace/#comment-9395</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like and support &quot;cager&quot;.  I will begin using it immediately, and certainly to great effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like and support &#8220;cager&#8221;.  I will begin using it immediately, and certainly to great effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Velocentric</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2009/10/15/the-jaywalking-menace/#comment-9394</link>
		<dc:creator>Velocentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...a particular pejorative, for “jaywalking” drivers...&quot;

I vote for &quot;cager&quot;. 

It&#039;s already in use by many cyclists and is an apt description of a driver with a dangerous attitude towards vulnerable road users.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;a particular pejorative, for “jaywalking” drivers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I vote for &#8220;cager&#8221;. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s already in use by many cyclists and is an apt description of a driver with a dangerous attitude towards vulnerable road users.</p>
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