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		<title>By: DoctorJay</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/09/28/some-dim/#comment-18872</link>
		<dc:creator>DoctorJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I find it rare that I need to turn on my high beams. There's usually so many other lights that I don't really use them. Maybe on a 2 lane, winding country road, but otherwise the streetlights and other cars provide plenty of illumination.

The writer on Freakonomics talks of using high beams to drive in the rain. That's a great way to bounce the light right back into your own face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I find it rare that I need to turn on my high beams. There&#8217;s usually so many other lights that I don&#8217;t really use them. Maybe on a 2 lane, winding country road, but otherwise the streetlights and other cars provide plenty of illumination.</p>
<p>The writer on Freakonomics talks of using high beams to drive in the rain. That&#8217;s a great way to bounce the light right back into your own face.</p>
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		<title>By: gregorylent</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/09/28/some-dim/#comment-18698</link>
		<dc:creator>gregorylent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>never done in india .. in fact, the opposite happens, just in case the beams were accidentally on low .. hate it, but it ain't my country</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never done in india .. in fact, the opposite happens, just in case the beams were accidentally on low .. hate it, but it ain&#8217;t my country</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/09/28/some-dim/#comment-18562</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 01:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you know what's funny? Altriusm does indeed work here-- its flip side is induced guilt. If I have a driver approaching me with anything resembling high beams-- a big SUV, misaimed lights, true high beam forgetfulness, other... I flash my highs at them, usually twice rapidly. Sometimes the other driver complies, turns to low beams. Numerous times, they do not change them. I then go to what is written above-- you look at the right side line. I never get blinded, but more importantly, what you have done with your flashing the high beams is let the other driver know that they, essentially, are wrong. Make no mistake-- driving is high-stakes emotional pride, and the other driver will feel guilt. Their behavior will change somehow down the road. 

The other thing that might be mentioned here is how fast a car will turn on its high beams after passing you, or you them. I like to play this "quickdraw game," and I have never been outdrawn yet.

John 
Number one Google hit for "best driver in the world"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you know what&#8217;s funny? Altriusm does indeed work here&#8211; its flip side is induced guilt. If I have a driver approaching me with anything resembling high beams&#8211; a big SUV, misaimed lights, true high beam forgetfulness, other&#8230; I flash my highs at them, usually twice rapidly. Sometimes the other driver complies, turns to low beams. Numerous times, they do not change them. I then go to what is written above&#8211; you look at the right side line. I never get blinded, but more importantly, what you have done with your flashing the high beams is let the other driver know that they, essentially, are wrong. Make no mistake&#8211; driving is high-stakes emotional pride, and the other driver will feel guilt. Their behavior will change somehow down the road. </p>
<p>The other thing that might be mentioned here is how fast a car will turn on its high beams after passing you, or you them. I like to play this &#8220;quickdraw game,&#8221; and I have never been outdrawn yet.</p>
<p>John<br />
Number one Google hit for &#8220;best driver in the world&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Love</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/09/28/some-dim/#comment-18474</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is very little altruism around here.  Those who don't dim get the high beams turned back on at them and get blasted with the high beams until they dim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is very little altruism around here.  Those who don&#8217;t dim get the high beams turned back on at them and get blasted with the high beams until they dim.</p>
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		<title>By: Theophylact</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/09/28/some-dim/#comment-18459</link>
		<dc:creator>Theophylact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm regularly blinded by someone &lt;i&gt;following&lt;/i&gt; me with high beams on, especially when it's an SUV with high-mounted headlights. The glare in my rear-view mirror can black out the road in front almost completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m regularly blinded by someone <i>following</i> me with high beams on, especially when it&#8217;s an SUV with high-mounted headlights. The glare in my rear-view mirror can black out the road in front almost completely.</p>
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		<title>By: alvin</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/09/28/some-dim/#comment-18417</link>
		<dc:creator>alvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall that some states' driving manuals have a dual strategy for minimizing high-beam blindness on their roadways. 
Here's New Jersey's: 
BRIGHT AND DIM http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Licenses/Driver%20Manual/Chapter_4.pdf
Bright beams can momentarily blind other motorists [...] and should not be used if other vehicles are approaching or when driving behind another vehicle. [...] At a speed of 50 mph, a motorist will have traveled the length of a football field while being unable to see. If a vehicle is approaching with high beams, a motorist should look to the right of the road until the vehicle passes.

I myself was specifically instructed to look at the reflective paint line marking the right edge of the lane as a guide. I imagined that this rule fostered in fellow drivers a "don't be like those jerks who might blind you" ethos, i.e. that the strategy for coping with the improper brights of others is a reminder to not use improper brights oneself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall that some states&#8217; driving manuals have a dual strategy for minimizing high-beam blindness on their roadways.<br />
Here&#8217;s New Jersey&#8217;s:<br />
BRIGHT AND DIM <a href="http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Licenses/Driver%20Manual/Chapter_4.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Licenses/Driver%20Manual/Chapter_4.pdf</a><br />
Bright beams can momentarily blind other motorists [...] and should not be used if other vehicles are approaching or when driving behind another vehicle. [...] At a speed of 50 mph, a motorist will have traveled the length of a football field while being unable to see. If a vehicle is approaching with high beams, a motorist should look to the right of the road until the vehicle passes.</p>
<p>I myself was specifically instructed to look at the reflective paint line marking the right edge of the lane as a guide. I imagined that this rule fostered in fellow drivers a &#8220;don&#8217;t be like those jerks who might blind you&#8221; ethos, i.e. that the strategy for coping with the improper brights of others is a reminder to not use improper brights oneself.</p>
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		<title>By: alvin</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/09/28/some-dim/#comment-18416</link>
		<dc:creator>alvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of declaring that the benefits are opposing, i.e. whether the benefit of not blinding the oncoming driver is indeed larger than the benefit of keeping one's own brights burning, I see it a little differently, and maybe Kare Rumar hints at it also.

Kare Rumar's paper states: "drivers very often dim too early from the visibility point of view. Research clearly shows that visibility for both opposing drivers would improve if they dimmed their high beams at shorter distances. These findings underscore the fact that the fear of late dimming, as illustrated in the dimming legislations in all U.S. states, is exaggerated."

I find that, in a two-opposing-cars situation, the driver who dims first encourages the second driver to reciprocate. When I drive, I dim my lights earlier than strictly necessary to remind the oncoming driver to do the same; by the time the other driver gets the hint and dims, hopeably the separation between cars is still ample enough to avoid being blinded.

So maybe the combined benefit of not blinding the oncoming driver AND improving the likelihood of not being blinded in return is indeed larger than the benefit of keeping your own brights burning. Besides, as a loss-averse person, I value not being blind much more highly than I value driving with brights instead of dims.

Next, I'd like to see if people dim less quickly/often when faced with oncoming lowbeams instead of oncoming highbeams, and also if drivers who sit high in tall vehicles are less likely to notice blinding effects and therefore are less likely to dim their own lights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of declaring that the benefits are opposing, i.e. whether the benefit of not blinding the oncoming driver is indeed larger than the benefit of keeping one&#8217;s own brights burning, I see it a little differently, and maybe Kare Rumar hints at it also.</p>
<p>Kare Rumar&#8217;s paper states: &#8220;drivers very often dim too early from the visibility point of view. Research clearly shows that visibility for both opposing drivers would improve if they dimmed their high beams at shorter distances. These findings underscore the fact that the fear of late dimming, as illustrated in the dimming legislations in all U.S. states, is exaggerated.&#8221;</p>
<p>I find that, in a two-opposing-cars situation, the driver who dims first encourages the second driver to reciprocate. When I drive, I dim my lights earlier than strictly necessary to remind the oncoming driver to do the same; by the time the other driver gets the hint and dims, hopeably the separation between cars is still ample enough to avoid being blinded.</p>
<p>So maybe the combined benefit of not blinding the oncoming driver AND improving the likelihood of not being blinded in return is indeed larger than the benefit of keeping your own brights burning. Besides, as a loss-averse person, I value not being blind much more highly than I value driving with brights instead of dims.</p>
<p>Next, I&#8217;d like to see if people dim less quickly/often when faced with oncoming lowbeams instead of oncoming highbeams, and also if drivers who sit high in tall vehicles are less likely to notice blinding effects and therefore are less likely to dim their own lights.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Turini</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/09/28/some-dim/#comment-18410</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Turini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2006/RAIR/PDF/aair2006013_001.pdf

The above is a link to a collision report between an overturned semi-trailer and a freight train, rural Australia, 2006.

One of the factors of the collision is that the freight train engineers had "dimmed" their locomotive's headlights shortly before the collision due to a motor vehicle passing on an adjacent road.

The detailed report outlines a raft of minor, preventable errors that occured prior to the collision, however the official category the Austrlaian Transport Safety Bureau placed this incident in was "accident".</description>
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<p>The above is a link to a collision report between an overturned semi-trailer and a freight train, rural Australia, 2006.</p>
<p>One of the factors of the collision is that the freight train engineers had &#8220;dimmed&#8221; their locomotive&#8217;s headlights shortly before the collision due to a motor vehicle passing on an adjacent road.</p>
<p>The detailed report outlines a raft of minor, preventable errors that occured prior to the collision, however the official category the Austrlaian Transport Safety Bureau placed this incident in was &#8220;accident&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/09/28/some-dim/#comment-18408</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the likely consequences of blinding the other driver and causing an accident. If they drive off the road, the driver that failed to dim their lights could be held responsible. If they cross the center line and hit the vehicle with the brights on, the driver that failed to dim can suffer property damage, injury or death. 

It seems like a pretty obvious case of self-interest at work to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the likely consequences of blinding the other driver and causing an accident. If they drive off the road, the driver that failed to dim their lights could be held responsible. If they cross the center line and hit the vehicle with the brights on, the driver that failed to dim can suffer property damage, injury or death. </p>
<p>It seems like a pretty obvious case of self-interest at work to me.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/09/28/some-dim/#comment-18400</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a courtesy-- what should be at the heart of much of driving while in any traffic. You should not blind other drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a courtesy&#8211; what should be at the heart of much of driving while in any traffic. You should not blind other drivers.</p>
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