Comments on: The Logistics of the School Drop-Off http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 23 May 2012 16:29:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Lee http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/#comment-21094 Lee Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:48:44 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1652#comment-21094 I live less than a block from my sons' school. There is barely enough room for the buses in the lot, so the street (a T-intersection) is packed full of cars on both sides. If one of the buses has a new driver who wants to back up, it's gridlock city. Meanwhile, the school has a back door, which leads to a path to another street. I've lived here ten years, I don't think I've ever seen a parent park on that back street. I live less than a block from my sons’ school. There is barely enough room for the buses in the lot, so the street (a T-intersection) is packed full of cars on both sides. If one of the buses has a new driver who wants to back up, it’s gridlock city. Meanwhile, the school has a back door, which leads to a path to another street. I’ve lived here ten years, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a parent park on that back street.

]]> By: Michiel http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/#comment-21091 Michiel Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:53:07 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1652#comment-21091 In NL we try to persuade parents to let their children bike or walk (alone, with other children or in company with a parent when they are small) and avoid cars around the school. It's not rare for an older child to bike for 15 min or more in the country side. Quite the opposite way. In NL we try to persuade parents to let their children bike or walk (alone, with other children or in company with a parent when they are small) and avoid cars around the school. It’s not rare for an older child to bike for 15 min or more in the country side. Quite the opposite way.

]]> By: George http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/#comment-21059 George Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:54:31 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1652#comment-21059 Last year we went on a biking holiday around Lancaster Pa's Amish country. I observed kids walking, biking and scootering[leg powered] to and from school. The smaller kids were accompanied by older kids. Some of the older kids were neighbors 'assigned' to the younger ones. It was refreshing to pass a schools in session with only bikes and scooters in the school yard and no cars or buggies anywhere near the school. I might add NO PARKING LOTS. Last year we went on a biking holiday around Lancaster Pa’s Amish country. I observed kids walking, biking and scootering[leg powered] to and from school. The smaller kids were accompanied by older kids. Some of the older kids were neighbors ‘assigned’ to the younger ones.

It was refreshing to pass a schools in session with only bikes and scooters in the school yard and no cars or buggies anywhere near the school. I might add NO PARKING LOTS.

]]> By: Dan http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/#comment-20909 Dan Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:45:00 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1652#comment-20909 "There are only 2 reasons for a traffic backup. The first is too many cars and the other is a failure to observe the plan..." Actually, I would submit to you that there is only one reason, that being the cars. Without those, the plan becomes unnecessary. “There are only 2 reasons for a traffic backup. The first is too many cars and the other is a failure to observe the plan…”

Actually, I would submit to you that there is only one reason, that being the cars. Without those, the plan becomes unnecessary.

]]> By: Kevin Love http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/#comment-20852 Kevin Love Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:59:05 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1652#comment-20852 Meanwhile, here in Canada, a suburb of Toronto just opened a new school as a "walking only" school. See: http://www.hdsb.ca/Newsroom/Pages/PLRobertsonPublicSchool.aspx This is actually quite easy to do. Simply put up barriers to keep cars off the school grounds and make the two blocks around the school a "no stopping" zone. With the local police making a routine patrol in the area for 1/2 hour before school start time and 1/2 hour after school end time to enforce the "no stopping" zone by ticketing any driver who stops his car to try to let a child out. Problem solved. Meanwhile, here in Canada, a suburb of Toronto just opened a new school as a “walking only” school. See:

http://www.hdsb.ca/Newsroom/Pages/PLRobertsonPublicSchool.aspx

This is actually quite easy to do. Simply put up barriers to keep cars off the school grounds and make the two blocks around the school a “no stopping” zone. With the local police making a routine patrol in the area for 1/2 hour before school start time and 1/2 hour after school end time to enforce the “no stopping” zone by ticketing any driver who stops his car to try to let a child out.

Problem solved.

]]> By: Opus the Poet http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/#comment-20851 Opus the Poet Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:37:26 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1652#comment-20851 Is it just me or do they have the passing zone on the same side of the driveway as the school? I looked up the full sized version of that flyer and I can't tell if the school is to the left or right of the paper as viewed. Is it just me or do they have the passing zone on the same side of the driveway as the school? I looked up the full sized version of that flyer and I can’t tell if the school is to the left or right of the paper as viewed.

]]> By: Kenny http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/#comment-20837 Kenny Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:30:30 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1652#comment-20837 Best line in Mr. Mom: SOUTH TO DROP OFF, MORON!!!! Best line in Mr. Mom:

SOUTH TO DROP OFF, MORON!!!!

]]> By: Richard B. http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/#comment-20776 Richard B. Wed, 27 Oct 2010 23:36:27 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1652#comment-20776 In 30 years as a traffic engineer, of which the last 18 have been as a municipal traffic engineer, all I have learned is that school-related traffic problems generally cannot be solved because neither the municipality nor the school district will invest the money, time, and annual training of parents to mitigate a problem that should have been dealt with during site design. Traffic is a discrete heterogeneous fluid flow with motive, and that motive often translates into "me first" around schools. I often joke about creating 1/4 mile auto-free zones around our schools to solve the problem and combat childhood obesity. If you want an alternative to the automobile,check out the National Safe Routes to School program and put those walking shoes on. In 30 years as a traffic engineer, of which the last 18 have been as a municipal traffic engineer, all I have learned is that school-related traffic problems generally cannot be solved because neither the municipality nor the school district will invest the money, time, and annual training of parents to mitigate a problem that should have been dealt with during site design. Traffic is a discrete heterogeneous fluid flow with motive, and that motive often translates into “me first” around schools. I often joke about creating 1/4 mile auto-free zones around our schools to solve the problem and combat childhood obesity. If you want an alternative to the automobile,check out the National Safe Routes to School program and put those walking shoes on.

]]> By: Steven http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/#comment-20773 Steven Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:25:17 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1652#comment-20773 Just makes me think of Mr. Mom. "Hello Jack? I'm Annette. You're doing it wrong." Just makes me think of Mr. Mom.

“Hello Jack? I’m Annette. You’re doing it wrong.”

]]> By: Josh R http://www.howwedrive.com/2010/10/27/the-logistics-of-the-school-drop-off/#comment-20766 Josh R Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:46:49 +0000 http://www.howwedrive.com/?p=1652#comment-20766 I poked around on the various websites a bit. On the website for Thurston elementary they say the school serves 569 students. On the Strike team website they say that the elementary school deals with 8 buses, 3 mini buses, and about 245 cars in two waves during the morning drop off. That means that something like half the kids are getting dropped off by their parents instead of taking the bus or walking. I poked around on the various websites a bit. On the website for Thurston elementary they say the school serves 569 students. On the Strike team website they say that the elementary school deals with 8 buses, 3 mini buses, and about 245 cars in two waves during the morning drop off. That means that something like half the kids are getting dropped off by their parents instead of taking the bus or walking.

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