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		<title>By: T Ian McLeod</title>
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		<description>Thanks for flagging this interesting discussion.  Your own contribution was excellent.

Having just returned from a two-week holiday that took in five countries in Europe (it's forty years since I first travelled in Europe - goodness me) I'll offer the following observations.

1. There are an increasing number of pedestrian zones in historic areas, and they're very pleasant; and the congestion charge in London appears to have a positive effect.

2. Contrariwise, Germany and England (at least) are increasingly locating their suburban retail services and their new residential highrises in highway corridors.

3. A significant number of Europeans appear to view sitting in traffic for hours as part of the price of progress, or even a valid form of recreation.  The road around the Bodensee, a large and impressively scenic lake, was an almost unbroken traffic jam; leaving Konstanz to get out of this ring we took one hour to go four kilometres on a national highway, due to a combination of (presumably normal) afternoon volume and lane closures around idle road construction sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for flagging this interesting discussion.  Your own contribution was excellent.</p>
<p>Having just returned from a two-week holiday that took in five countries in Europe (it&#8217;s forty years since I first travelled in Europe - goodness me) I&#8217;ll offer the following observations.</p>
<p>1. There are an increasing number of pedestrian zones in historic areas, and they&#8217;re very pleasant; and the congestion charge in London appears to have a positive effect.</p>
<p>2. Contrariwise, Germany and England (at least) are increasingly locating their suburban retail services and their new residential highrises in highway corridors.</p>
<p>3. A significant number of Europeans appear to view sitting in traffic for hours as part of the price of progress, or even a valid form of recreation.  The road around the Bodensee, a large and impressively scenic lake, was an almost unbroken traffic jam; leaving Konstanz to get out of this ring we took one hour to go four kilometres on a national highway, due to a combination of (presumably normal) afternoon volume and lane closures around idle road construction sites.</p>
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